Episode 264

From Accountant to Creative Founder – Why learning the numbers set me free

March 2, 2026

What happens when someone trained to analyse spreadsheets decides to follow their creative passion?

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About this episode

In this episode of The Evolve to Succeed Podcast, Warren Munson sits down with Joe Hayes, founder of Kindful Creative, to explore his journey from trainee accountant to running a growing video production agency built on the values of kindness, relationships, and human connection.

Joe shares how his early career in accountancy gave him a powerful understanding of business fundamentals, but ultimately left him feeling stuck in a routine that lacked passion. What started as a hobby with a camera quickly turned into something much bigger, eventually leading Joe to take the leap and launch his own creative agency.

Throughout the conversation, Joe opens up about the realities of starting a business, the importance of understanding your numbers, and why relationships and reputation often matter more than aggressive sales strategies.

You’ll also hear about the challenges of growth, staying focused as a founder, and how building a business around personal values can shape company culture and client relationships.

If you’re thinking about starting a business, changing careers, or building something that aligns with your passions, this episode is packed with honest insights and practical lessons.

If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who might find it valuable.

Joe shares how his early career in accountancy gave him a powerful understanding of business fundamentals, but ultimately left him feeling stuck in a routine that lacked passion. What started as a hobby with a camera quickly turned into something much bigger, eventually leading Joe to take the leap and launch his own creative agency.

Throughout the conversation, Joe opens up about the realities of starting a business, the importance of understanding your numbers, and why relationships and reputation often matter more than aggressive sales strategies.

You’ll also hear about the challenges of growth, staying focused as a founder, and how building a business around personal values can shape company culture and client relationships.

If you’re thinking about starting a business, changing careers, or building something that aligns with your passions, this episode is packed with honest insights and practical lessons.

If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who might find it valuable.

 

What The Episode Covers

  • Joe Hayes’ journey from trainee accountant to creative entrepreneur
  • The inspiration behind launching Kindful Creative
  • Why relationships are at the heart of Joe’s business philosophy
  • The risks and mindset shifts involved in leaving a stable career
  • Why understanding financials is crucial for founders
  • Lessons learned from early business decisions and partnerships
  • The importance of building a strong team culture
  • How podcasting and content help businesses build authority
  • Balancing entrepreneurship with family life and Joe’s personal definition of success

 

Chapters

00:00 – Why did you become an accountant?
04:30 – What inspired the name Kindful?
08:00 – How do you build a values-driven team?
11:00 – When did creativity become a passion?
15:00 – What gave you the confidence to start a business?
21:00 – Why do founders need financial literacy?
27:30 – What does Kindful Creative actually do?
32:00 – How has leadership changed for you?
35:00 – Why should businesses create content and podcasts?
40:00 – Lifestyle business or growth company?
44:00 – What advice would you give your younger self?
47:30 – What does success mean to you?

Episode 264

The guests

Joe Hayes

Kindful Creative

Episode 264

The host

Warren Munson

Founder of Evolve
Entrepreneur, keynote speaker, business advisor and author

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